tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post115842685525951038..comments2023-11-02T05:09:48.607-05:00Comments on PURE FLORIDA: The GateUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158645603096229842006-09-19T01:00:00.000-05:002006-09-19T01:00:00.000-05:00sheesh, there are plenty of lawyers i'd rather not...sheesh, there are plenty of lawyers i'd rather not be around, too. in real life, i'm a mom of teens, and we live by a nature area in a metropolis. not an expert on property law, but protecting your rights just makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158629607091882882006-09-18T20:33:00.000-05:002006-09-18T20:33:00.000-05:00Abandoned,Wow. You've been through it!Abandoned,<BR/>Wow. You've been through it!R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158552982250801132006-09-17T23:16:00.000-05:002006-09-17T23:16:00.000-05:00Sounded like you did real well with your shrimping...Sounded like you did real well with your shrimping. Can't wait for the pictures.<BR/><BR/>The landuse thing happens here too...I lost land because I let a neighbor put up a fence about 20 feet in, for his cattle.<BR/>And where I'm living now we let a neighbor use our driveway for so long that now we can't do anything about it. Being neighborly has a price.Sandy Hatcher-Wallacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15011307599473627922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158493194346243312006-09-17T06:39:00.000-05:002006-09-17T06:39:00.000-05:00Pablo,Libby must know that GateKeeper is a highly ...Pablo,<BR/>Libby must know that GateKeeper is a highly honored position in any pickup truck. Only the most reliable among us are chosen for this role of extreme responsibility.<BR/>:)R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158482757614998392006-09-17T03:45:00.000-05:002006-09-17T03:45:00.000-05:00Back when we had a common gate for the many landow...Back when we had a common gate for the many landowners at Roundrock, we each had a separate lock on the gate. My lock, a few links of the chain, the next guy's lock, a few links of the chain, the next guy's lock, a few more links of the chain, and so on. That worked well since we could all get through but only because we knew the combo or had the key to one particular lock on the daisy chain. Then someone decided to move the common gate closer to the road to include more of the parcels. The gate never really got set up properly, and the daisy chain of locks is somewhere, but I haven't seen it for years. The gate sits permanently open, but fortunately we haven't had the vandal problem we'd had in the past. (Also, I say the daisy chain lock worked, but you might ask Libby her opinion. She was the one who had to get out of the truck each time to open/close the gate.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158466425279307492006-09-16T23:13:00.000-05:002006-09-16T23:13:00.000-05:00Rurality,Our big timber companies (St. Joe) have t...Rurality,<BR/>Our big timber companies (St. Joe) have turned into big developers.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158462495888539542006-09-16T22:08:00.000-05:002006-09-16T22:08:00.000-05:00I think the laws here are similar, but you can bet...I think the laws here are similar, but you can bet they don't really apply to, say, big timber companies. :)Ruralityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06616461213179182660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158457155484851232006-09-16T20:39:00.000-05:002006-09-16T20:39:00.000-05:00Kathy A,I forgot to answer your question, the road...Kathy A,<BR/>I forgot to answer your question, the road is private. The land was one large chunk that was sold in 20 acre and up plots last year. We all have access to the road through a pair of gates that DO have combo locks to keep out nonowners. This gate is not one of those.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158456913939085142006-09-16T20:35:00.000-05:002006-09-16T20:35:00.000-05:00ThreeCollie,You must have quite a collection of tr...ThreeCollie,<BR/>You must have quite a collection of tree stands :)<BR/>I think this will resolve itself without too much ado. It's more a matter of the lock than the gate.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158456402527962722006-09-16T20:26:00.000-05:002006-09-16T20:26:00.000-05:00Kathy A,Thank you for that excellent info. Sorry i...Kathy A,<BR/>Thank you for that excellent info. Sorry if I give lawyers a hard time, it's not fair and I have a much loved brother n law who is a lawyer ... and may be a judge soon if the run off election goes his way down there in Pasco Co.<BR/>Rest assured, I get my share of flack as a "Government Teacher".<BR/><BR/>I should be fussing about the "sue over anything" public and not the folks who show them how.<BR/><BR/>I promise to be nicer... and I really appreciate the expert advice.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158456149570604602006-09-16T20:22:00.000-05:002006-09-16T20:22:00.000-05:00I called my guys out to view the gate and signs an...I called my guys out to view the gate and signs and told them the story and they were hopping mad in sympathy with you. I am afraid none of our tractors share your jeep's patience. We have had "neighbors" cut our hedgerows down to build 4-wheeler roads into our fields...repeatedly. My fellas have become expert at quickly building a five-strand gaucho-wire fence across these incursions and planting a posted sign on it, then taking pictures of the whole deal...of course the neighbors then cut another hole. We also get a lot of tree stands nailed into our trees. They guys just take them down and bring them home and leave a nice "thank you" painted on the tree.<BR/>The squatter's rights law holds true up here in NY too and we know a number of folks who have sustained serious losses by not telling people to cease and desist from using their land.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158448667438982092006-09-16T18:17:00.000-05:002006-09-16T18:17:00.000-05:00ok, i went to law school, forgive me. property la...ok, i went to law school, forgive me. property law is definitely not my thing, but "adverse possession" is a way for someone else to get your property. here's a blurb:<BR/>http://real-estate-law.freeadvice.com/adverse_possession.htm<BR/><BR/>who legally owns the roadway, anyway? might be worth looking up. it doesn't look like a public road, so it may be an "easement" on someone's property -- yours or the guy up the road's. an easement allows use for access -- it can either be a formal agreement, or something established by traditional use [this is a way that "adverse possession" helps property owners, by allowing access to their land]. <BR/><BR/>anyway -- if you own the land, some other guy can't put up a locked gate. if he owns the land and the road is a traditional method of access to some of your land, he also can't put up a locked gate, probably. seems worthwhile to check ownership of the road and if there is a formal easement. the county assessor's office can steer you to the right documents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158442996596104212006-09-16T16:43:00.000-05:002006-09-16T16:43:00.000-05:00Pablo,Your timber theft was on my mind when I wrot...Pablo,<BR/>Your timber theft was on my mind when I wrote this.<BR/>I know you like hearing about Twiggy and as soon as it gets cool down here and the skeeters back off, I will venture into it more and post accordingly.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158442471534617772006-09-16T16:34:00.000-05:002006-09-16T16:34:00.000-05:00I was wondering about the Twig Forest. As for the ...I was wondering about the Twig Forest. As for the apparent incursion, you are right to be vigorous and vigilant. Take it from someone who paid a high price for not having a clearly defined property line! I suspect the new owner (if that is what the case is) will have no problem with your assertion of your rights and will be happy to cooperate. But it's always best to find out where things stand in advance of any incidents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158440571109681902006-09-16T16:02:00.000-05:002006-09-16T16:02:00.000-05:00Hal,I'm hoping it will be as simple as a letter in...Hal,<BR/>I'm hoping it will be as simple as a letter informing them that the gate is "blocking" access to a portion of my property. The gate itself does not bug me as long as I can open it.<BR/><BR/>Wayne,<BR/>It must be some strange old common law clause. It is strange. Yes, the amazing red JEEP is impetuous, I am constantly having to restrain it ... like a 9 month old Lab, it wants to go bounding off every which way.<BR/><BR/>Hoss,<BR/>It's the tree formerly known as pine.R.Powershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905593499136090763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158435444595274872006-09-16T14:37:00.000-05:002006-09-16T14:37:00.000-05:00You are right about the conversion. Be wary.In th...You are right about the conversion. Be wary.<BR/><BR/>In the lower picture, that is a nice scene of a former tree...OldHorsetailSnakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865830344885164689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158433147162352842006-09-16T13:59:00.000-05:002006-09-16T13:59:00.000-05:00The amazing red jeep had the right idea right ther...The amazing red jeep had the right idea right there, but calmer heads prevailed. We've had the same warnings here about asserting your rights as a landowner, lest someone basically - what - take precendence over your clear ownership? How strange.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12006171.post-1158432418911438972006-09-16T13:46:00.000-05:002006-09-16T13:46:00.000-05:00Make sure to restrain your Jeep until AFTER you ex...Make sure to restrain your Jeep until AFTER you exhaust the more sensible approaches. I agree with you, that you have to confront your neighbor regarding this encroachment. If not, your silence might be construed as acceptance of his having usurped your property rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com